this is c-span. >> taking a look at the white house in this hour, where a meeting on the fiscal cliff ended at approximately 4:15 eastern time. the president was not expected to be making a new offer on the fiscal cliff. if he had to, he would press congress to take a straight up or down vote on his plan to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts. according to a wheat from the cnn congressional producer, nancy pelosi is back on capitol hill after the meeting with the president, calling it constructive and candid, saying, wait to see what senators reid and mcconnell can put together. pelosi said boehner made it clear in the white house meeting that he will not move something until the senate moves first. you can find more updates and our special web page on the fiscal cliff, c-span.org /fiscalcliff. we have been looking at the possible impact of the office of a cliff on various sectors, including this conversation about possible effects on social security. host: a dive into social security. here to talk about the program is stephen olmacher, joining us from the associated press. how